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Yankee Group slams 'Linux extremists'

Ingrid Marson ZDNet.co.uk

Published: 07 Apr 2005 13:00 BST

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The Yankee Group has hit back at critics in the Linux community who have claimed that its surveys comparing Linux and Microsoft Windows are not impartial.

Its latest survey, published on Monday, reported that Microsoft Windows Server 2003 is at least as good if not better than Linux, in terms of quality, performance and reliability.

Laura DiDio, an analyst at the Yankee Group who has been at the receiving end of much of the criticism from Linux advocates, claimed the radical elements of the community could damage the reputation of open source software.

"There's an extremist fringe of Linux loonies who hang out on forums and are disrespectful and threatening because you disagree with them," DiDio told ZDNet UK on Wednesday. "That can hurt the Linux community."

DiDio feels she has been unfairly criticised on open source forums, including being nicknamed DiDiot, and has even had Linux advocates contacting her at home. "I've had these nut jobs calling me at 11 o'clock at night," said DiDio.

The reactionary nature of much of the open source community is something that DiDio claims is unique in the software industry.

"I've lived through the Unix wars — none of them reacted in this way," said DiDio. "It's just software. This has got way out of proportion."

Some of DiDio's critics have claimed that Yankee Group's surveys comparing the total cost of ownership of Linux and Windows have been funded by Microsoft. DiDio strongly denies this claim.

"I don't take any money from any vendor," said DiDio. "Yankee Group paid entirely for the survey. We use an independent survey house."

Yankee Group surveyed executives at over 500 companies, asking them questions on factors that influence TCO such as deployment costs, the cost of downtime, and the time and staff associated with security attacks.

As the study was carried out independently, DiDio said she had no influence on the results. "I think its hilarious that I'm [accused of] colluding with 500 or a 1,000 people," said DiDio.

The fanatical side of the Linux community has been highlighted by others in the past. Security analyst Mi2g, which released research last year claiming that Linux was hacked more frequently than Windows, experienced a 'hostile' response from some in the community, according to the company Web site.

"Any empirical evidence pointing to a high level of online Linux breaches is immediately shot down by religious zealots as if a church had been desecrated," Mi2g stated on its Web site. "The management of Mi2g has been threatened with damage to reputation and online property unless more is preached in favour of Linux."

Several senior executives at commercial open source vendors have also admitted privately that they are concerned that the radical side of the open source community could damage the reputation of open source software.

Although there are some negative aspects to the open source community, some point out that there are many positive aspects including the team work, the lack of hierarchy and the supportive element of the community.

Jon 'Maddog' Hall, the president of Linux International and a leading open source advocate, said at the LinuxWorld conference in London last year that one of the great aspects of the open source community is its willingness to help others.

"A friend of mine is a systems administrator at a large company and uses a lot of open source software to help him in his systems administration tasks," said Hall. "He said that if he asks a question [on a forum or mailing list] he gets lots of responses by the next morning. He told me: 'I give so little and I get so much.'"

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87 comments

  1. Miss DiDio should grow a thicker skin. She has rep... Gerard ter Beke
  2. Its the same old story: a research study is funded... Helen Trevish
  3. Same old story. The Linux fanatics are easily the... Smithy
  4. In a large population there's a reasonable ch... Richard Corfield
  5. I wonder on what planet Smithy lives.. The st... Linux Convert
  6. As a brainless Linux extremist who found out... John D. L. Platt
  7. I agree that abusive language and calling som... Anonymous
  8. Laura Didio has only become such an infamous chara... enough already
  9. enogh already : "Laura Didio has only become... Smithy
  10. Well, Smithy. I'm a Linux supporter. I... Andy C
  11. This type of thing tends to happen... Rich Steiner
  12. "This a free country. This is America, n... enough already
  13. Enough already : "Yet in that same... Smithy
  14. "What on earth has making late... enough already
  15. smithy. I do not care for Linu... Anonymous
  16. Smithy wrote: "Time for these... Suprised Heterosexual
  17. Ingrid, and ZD, you are redeem... Anonymous
  18. I am surprised US is called fr... Outsider
  19. Gee, Laura. Perhaps you shoul... steggy
  20. Ms Didio told me her level of... Weston Goodwin
  21. Enough already : "Another spin, ext... Smithy
  22. "FACT: Threatening, late night... Anonymous
  23. "FACT: Threatening, late night... Chris
  24. RE: "FACT: Threatening, late n... Anonymous
  25. Take it easy.. Smitty has two... Bobby
  26. No, I'm not a psychopath Laura... Smithy
  27. "This a free country. This is Amer... Anonymous
  28. FACT: SHE EARNED IT! It was not because... Han Solo
  29. Smithy, you troll, posing as an expert i... Leon Brooks
  30. Let Smithy alone He´s just expressing un... Crow
  31. Am I the only one cringing at the number... A Nonny Mouse
  32. So Yankee Doodle 'lost her pony'!!! Sob! Sob! Anonymous
  33. For the record: Phoney IT analysis: bad. Thr... Anonymous
  34. Oh, Boy. I've read little enlightening i... Andy Nemec
  35. if you want to talk about communists... chinese go... Anonymous
  36. Well here's some topical background on the style o... Anonymous
  37. To call people using Linux "Linux extremists" or... Anonymous
  38. Two comments: First, there are good and bad things... Anonymous
  39. Didiot and her fellow-idiots Enderle and Brow... Anonymous
  40. Ms. Didiot has acquired her reputation by repeated... Anonymous
  41. Every movement has its radicals, particularly when... Matthew C. Tedder
  42. To start with, calling her home, threatening her,... Anonymous
  43. What is this woman talking about? "I've lived thro... Anonymous
  44. Sorry Miss that we open source people feel so adim... Joseph A Dydula
  45. Dildio is just like her skinnier sister MoG she c... sdhhlsh
  46. Without Windows, Didio is nothing. Same with Ender... Anonymous
  47. Anonymous Engineer: she really is that dense.... Leon Brooks
  48. Only software? It's only my livelihood Laura's tra... Leon Brooks
  49. DiDio is nothing more than another two-bit journal... Dennis Soper
  50. LD, RE, MOG etc are paid to provide 'talking... Anonymous
  51. The Yankee Group = 0 (Zero) credibility! Hey ZDNET... William Gatesler
  52. I am a Linux user and a Windows user...as a matter... Vince Vargas
  53. "There are excellent to both, but only Linux... Boomer
  54. Why does the It industry as a whole insi... Anonymous
  55. Taming of the DiDioT Shill Laura DiDioT has been s... Henry Thoreau
  56. There are definately nutjobs in the linux communit... Antonio Baloney
  57. People, people, don't you see this is exactly... Gavin
  58. Yes it is bad that people target individuals, but... pastyboy
  59. No matter if you agree with the studies or not I d... Tim
  60. How did the anonymous "nutbag" get her privat... rams
  61. Let me see... Question: How many administrators do... James Cornell
  62. looks like ZDNET has a limit on post size..... bobby
  63. Dear Ms Didio, When you make absurd statements bas... rob smith
  64. I am tired of informal surveys being used to prove... Steve Conners
  65. Ms. DiDio's commentary, mostly regarding the curre... Bob Halloran
  66. Linux Extemists? LOL! I use Windows primarily beca... Jeff
  67. I find it odd that nobody believes a word Mis... Anonymous
  68. I agree. Calling someone at 1am in the morning is... Steve McAtee
  69. Well, now we see how far we've come. The 'indepen... Pengo Tuxedo
  70. Ms. DiDio please note; The crowd has moved on... Brody Miller
  71. This study has gotten way too much press. I have... brad
  72. Of course they have, it's good PR for them. E... Bob Halloran
  73. In one thing I agree with Ms DiDio, intemperate be... Jules
  74. Several things.. As James Cornell said pr... bobby
  75. Who can tell if I'm a GNU/Linux zealot or a MS emp... Anonymous
  76. Pamela Jones receives just as many negative reacti... SmyTTor
  77. Very, very clever. Your company takes the debate a... Software Engineer
  78. Well, freaks making phone calls, that is a bit too... JohnM
  79. Well, Linux is superior on the core level to Windo... Anonymous
  80. RE: TCO for an x86 system... The hardware ramifica... Poppe
  81. Get the facts right. She doesn't say she was "thre... blackbelt_jones
  82. EVERYONE READ THIS... Two questions that must be p... Poppe
  83. nothing personal, its just a software , how can u... Ahmed Mohiuddin
  84. She's Absolutely On-Target. This is truely unfortu... Richard Lohman
  85. To sum this up: money talks. Arthur B.
  86. I think many people forget that by and large... Anonymous
  87. Didio is a shil. Look at this video of her from M... No Shill
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